Yesterday an episode from “stunts laughters” happened on 9dragons forum: the webmaster succeeded to erase, in proportion of 80%, the guides of veterans and Acclaim team, forgeting “back-up” function OFF . In the beginning he notified the players :
The oldest post in General was 1212 days old.or 3 years, 3 months, 24 days old.or 104,716,800 seconds old.or 1,745,280 minutes old.or 29,088 hours old.or 173 weeks (rounded down) old.
I’m still doing some cleaning… but I wanted to get the big task done first.
Some showed “skepticism” from the start.Some jumped with big praises to Historian: “good job”,” congratz” and that scream of kissing some part of body, which I consider an insult to human intelligence. Than, the bomb came :
Omg! Where is that sticky guide with all the good links to quests, items, epithets, etc from the tips and guide section? o.O
Why is it that the acclaim’s cure to problems always seems to be worst than the problem itself? We need our guides back
seeannuhh come with the idea to repost it, but arashisenshi said:
You are aware, aren’t you, that the bulk of the guides in that section was made by players and even VGMs who aren’t even around anymore…
Another idea came, again, from the lead of VGMs :
Yes, I understand that. But then, doesn’t that mean we can have updated guides?
Bella, if you play this game you should know that most of guides are static, the quests are fixed, which does not require updates. This is another proof that one of the moderators and the leader of VGMs have no idea what’s happening in 9Dragons. Even worse is that, seeannuhh did guides from Verse avatar . I don’t know what she had in mind when she replied that, ( maybe to keep the honor of Historian, who failed another task) but the answer is worth of animal kingdom reason.
After, we have a “smarter” line from [VGM]Kami :
Pretty nice… Job nicely done TheHistorian…
Today, I came from work and guess what, 9D forum wasn’t lagging! xD
I can only say Thx a bunch, TH lol
About the guides… Yeah well, that was a downside… Now it’s time to create new and better guides, guys!
Now, old veterans that are still around can prove what they are worth, hey?
Good luck, everyone!
Are you sure you have the legal age to work ? I see some pinky words in there : ” xD”, ” Thx a bunch”, “TH lol”, “hey”. This kind of language is labeled by spin doctors as an emotional language of a “color character” . Some short “words, typos” after certain phrases, has a specific meaning in addressing.
Historian stood and expected players reactions, after which he posted a reply:
I only removed posts from the “General Discussions” and “Players Helping Players” forums. It seems that not all of the Guides had been moved to the “Tips and Guides” forum and those that were left in the “Players Helping Players” were deleted.
I am sorry about that. We can look at this as a great loss… or as an opportunity to make the lost guides even better (and get them in to the right forum ). In order to be deleted it must not have had any posts to it in more than a year, so they could have needed to be updated anyway.
It also gives our Veteran players a chance to help the new players as well.
This is a reply to exonerate, but is a bad one. First, in addition to GD, Historian remembers PHP, though in his first post he said that, others will follow. The topics in Tips & Guides of course were removed, didn’t removed by themselves (or maybe you believe in ghost stories, in this case virtual ghosts that make things disappear).
Well, when Acclaim is wrong, it’s never their fault and no one is taken into account. Instead, when it comes to “others”, locked, delete or ban is on the agenda. Who was wrong, must pay, including professional ( in others company messing like this, shorts the pocket with 10-15 % pay, for 90 days). How others said making a guide takes working days. What veterans he speak off ? 90% of the accounts as someone said are dead or baned. After he baned so many people he asked help from them.This is karma…
After a while, Warda came to his rescue and hold a helping hand for Historian, who said ( switch the degrees) :
“Thank you Warda, as I said… I’m sorry about the guides. My comment about some of the guides possibly needed an update was due to the age of them.”
arashisenshi made losses calculation: 80% gone, not outdated. The debate still continues in that “box” of forum.
The certainty is that someone from Acclaim (particularly Historian) was wrong and this time is more than visible, is a mistake that affects the community. Tips & Guides is a section frequently visited and one of the reasons why the 9dragons forum is visited.
Beyond these issues, we got one that is legally. Deleted threads may contain banned grounds for forum accounts. As these topics are gone (no back-up) , now I am curious as proof what they can show ( in real life we don’t have 30 days to prescribe a deed). Any company that develops online activity is required to have back-ups to all dates. A forum is some kind of archive. In real life the actual documents ( records of conversations & others) are stored in an archive, for many, many…years.
In the end, I hope people like VGM [Kami] who come on boards and give indication to others, to seize the restoration of guides. “Can prove you worth, hey?”… As for my guides, if I have time I will repost it.
…Maybe next time Historian ‘accidentally’ deletes’ the accounts database …
PS : Till the guides are reposted check this page :